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A Huggard wrote:
My daughter moved out 2 days after turning 17 to live with her 19 yr old boyfriend. This was also the day I had a ambulatory surgery done and I was half out of it when she left. She had been in her room talking to her bf's mom and her biol dad (who has seen her 3 times in 17 yrs) and they moved her out while I was laid up on my couch...There was nothing I could do...She told several lies to her father and continues to do so...what can I do? Shes very immature and I fear she will end up pregnant as this is what the bfriend wants her for...
06/01 14:50:30
David Kowalski wrote:
My son does not get along with his mother at all. She has custody and I am fighting for custody in FOC. She is bipolar and refuses to take her medication which is the problem. He plans to run away at 17 to my house if we should lose custody do to the FOC always siding with the female. Is this legal? Can my ex or the courts do anything to stop it. I'm afraid he will run and live on the streets in another state if we cant do this. At least in my home he will be well cared for. He is a very good young man!
08/01 14:55:24
joseph Kowalski wrote:
Hello
I turn 17 in about a mere 5 months, and I need help.
Does this mean that, at 17, I can runaway from my mother, who I do not get along with , to go to my father's house, who is perfectly capable of raising me? I would leave notes for my mother, and make photocopies and take pictures of there location in relation to the inside of my mother's house, as I know she would try to say she never had a note, therefore, I would not be “missing”, as my whereabouts are known? I know this may seem absurd, as you probably put this up to inform parents and help them out, but did it ever occur to you that with this, you could in turn help the troubled youth with no other way out? My parents are in the middle of a custody battle, with me staying at my mothers at the moment. Me and my dad both feel that he will win custody of me, but we have our doubts that it will occur before I am 17 years of age. I have good grades, because I have been seeing my dad, which has made me a more happy person, and I would join school again once I moved, and I haven’t committed any crimes, so I have nothing against me.
So, if you could let me know, I would greatly appreciate it. You can contact me through email at boogiediamondz@gmail.com.
Thank you for your time, patience and help.
It is greatly appreciated.
Signed,
A Youth In Need
I turn 17 in about a mere 5 months, and I need help.
Does this mean that, at 17, I can runaway from my mother, who I do not get along with , to go to my father's house, who is perfectly capable of raising me? I would leave notes for my mother, and make photocopies and take pictures of there location in relation to the inside of my mother's house, as I know she would try to say she never had a note, therefore, I would not be “missing”, as my whereabouts are known? I know this may seem absurd, as you probably put this up to inform parents and help them out, but did it ever occur to you that with this, you could in turn help the troubled youth with no other way out? My parents are in the middle of a custody battle, with me staying at my mothers at the moment. Me and my dad both feel that he will win custody of me, but we have our doubts that it will occur before I am 17 years of age. I have good grades, because I have been seeing my dad, which has made me a more happy person, and I would join school again once I moved, and I haven’t committed any crimes, so I have nothing against me.
So, if you could let me know, I would greatly appreciate it. You can contact me through email at boogiediamondz@gmail.com.
Thank you for your time, patience and help.
It is greatly appreciated.
Signed,
A Youth In Need
09/01 07:24:42
refadmin wrote:
Dear A. Huggard:
There is not much you can do as indicated in the article, the police will not likely pick her up. You could however report to the police that she has run away from your house to have a record of the event for future purposes.
She is at the age now where she is going to do what she wants and you are best served by trying to keep her close by showing her your unconditional love through being there when she needs you.
Sincerely,
Renee C. Walsh
There is not much you can do as indicated in the article, the police will not likely pick her up. You could however report to the police that she has run away from your house to have a record of the event for future purposes.
She is at the age now where she is going to do what she wants and you are best served by trying to keep her close by showing her your unconditional love through being there when she needs you.
Sincerely,
Renee C. Walsh
09/01 11:27:45
refadmin wrote:
Dear Mr. Kowalski and Son:
Until age 17, a mother such as yours who reports you as a runaway to the police will likely receive police assistance in finding you and bringing you home. Furthermore, a parent with a court order for custody that is being violated, can go to the FOC to get assistance in enforcing the court order.
Practically speaking, if a teenager age 16 moves to their father's house and the police become involved, the police should be informed of a parent who does not take medication and could become violent. If the teenager and non-custodial parent inform the police that the mother could endanger the teenager, then the police should not return the teenager to the mother and the non-custodial parent should remind the police that they could face liability if they put the son in danger. If the teenager is returned to the mother, such a teenager should request to the mother in front of the police to stay at the father's house due to the medication issue and their fear and to put pressure on the mother to agree.
If mom is not taking medication, an affidavit should be signed by a person with this knowledge. This should then be presented to the court in order to obtain an Ex-Parte Temporary Custody Order which can be sought and entered on an emergency basis.
Sincerely,
Renee C. Walsh
Until age 17, a mother such as yours who reports you as a runaway to the police will likely receive police assistance in finding you and bringing you home. Furthermore, a parent with a court order for custody that is being violated, can go to the FOC to get assistance in enforcing the court order.
Practically speaking, if a teenager age 16 moves to their father's house and the police become involved, the police should be informed of a parent who does not take medication and could become violent. If the teenager and non-custodial parent inform the police that the mother could endanger the teenager, then the police should not return the teenager to the mother and the non-custodial parent should remind the police that they could face liability if they put the son in danger. If the teenager is returned to the mother, such a teenager should request to the mother in front of the police to stay at the father's house due to the medication issue and their fear and to put pressure on the mother to agree.
If mom is not taking medication, an affidavit should be signed by a person with this knowledge. This should then be presented to the court in order to obtain an Ex-Parte Temporary Custody Order which can be sought and entered on an emergency basis.
Sincerely,
Renee C. Walsh
09/01 11:42:19
refadmin wrote:
When you turn 17, your mother will be hard pressed to find any assistance if you move to your father's house. Typically, police do not go after 17-year-olds. If she attempted to take the matter to court, there would be little she could do. Your opinion as to whom you want to live with at age 16 and/or 17 is going to be heavily weighted by the courts. If you do not want to live with your mom, it is unlikely that you will be forced to when you have a father who wants you to live with him. It would be a very hard battle for your mother to win, especially considering her psychological history.
If you are doing well in school, if you have a job, if you don't drink or do drugs, and if you are keeping your parents informed of your activities, it is unlikely you will have trouble convincing people to listen.
Remember though that this is a blog and I am really discussing legal principals rather than giving specific advice. Since I do not know all the details of your situation, you should not rely on this information, but consider it in relation to your situation to make an informed decision.
If you are doing well in school, if you have a job, if you don't drink or do drugs, and if you are keeping your parents informed of your activities, it is unlikely you will have trouble convincing people to listen.
Remember though that this is a blog and I am really discussing legal principals rather than giving specific advice. Since I do not know all the details of your situation, you should not rely on this information, but consider it in relation to your situation to make an informed decision.
09/01 12:49:13
alexis wrote:
I am a female who turns 17 May 4th. I want to move out of my house and live with my aunt but my mom says I can't do that until I'm 18. I tell her that I can. She says they'll just put me in "juvie". I just want to know if I can move out when I am 17 if I am still attending school and I have a job.
11/02 22:32:49
refadmin wrote:
Alexis, the original article posted on this issue speaks directly to your question. Generally speaking, your mother will have a difficult time getting the police to do anything when you turn 17. Lawyers will tell her that at that age, she cannot kick you out and she cannot keep you home. Furthermore, you will not be sent to "juvie". Typically, if the police become involved, they merely assist the parent in returning the young adult to the home and do not press charges because there is nothing to charge. If you go to your aunt's house and your mother knows where you are, you are not a runaway and not breaking any law. (Of course if you are in the legal system already, such as on probation, such activity could constitute a violation of probation, which is another story.)
11/02 23:11:17
paige wrote:
I am going to be 17 in less then a month. I have a 5 month old baby. Can I move out of my mother's house when I turn 17?
25/02 15:13:30
refadmin wrote:
The gray area of the law is on your side if you choose to do this. Tell your mother what you are going to do and she will not be able to report you as a runaway. It is extremely unlikely that you would be forced by the police to stay with your mother against your will, being that you are a woman and a mother yourself, you have informed your own mother where you are going to be, and you have adequate shelter and support.
25/02 15:53:03
Mallorie lewis wrote:
Hi I'm going to be 17 on sept 8th i want to know if i can move out when I turn 17 and live with my bf couse i dont get along with my parents is the law any different couse i'm adoptive?
03/03 12:36:16
Nikki B. wrote:
I am turning 17 on March 18. I am looking at leaving my home for a few days, maybe a week or so, to get out of my home. My mother and I rarely get along. She seems uninterested in anything I have to say. She tells me I need "help" when all I need is a mother who will talk with me, teach me and give me advice rather than tell me I am wrong all the time. I am also a middle-child, with an 18 year old gap between my eldest brother and youngest sister. Each of us have different fathers. My mom got pregnant with my brother at 15, and never married his father. My real father lives about 3 1/2 hours away and is an alcoholic, so living with him is out of the question. I want to stay with a friend, and possibly my boyfriend of almost 3 years who is 20. Could I legally leave for a few days/week and return myself, without legal assistance? Can my parents call the authorities on my boyfriend, although they love him. Could he be held responsible?
10/03 20:28:10
refadmin wrote:
Dear Nikki:
If you let your mom know where you are going, you have the law on your side if you choose to leave. She will not be able to report you missing because she knows where you are.
Whether your boyfriend could be held responsible for anything would be dependent on what is said to the police. If you insist that your boyfriend has nothing to do with your decisions, and is not to blame, then he should be alright.
The safest measure when dealing with the police is to tell them you want an attorney. Once you say you want an attorney they are not allowed to ask you additional questions unless you recommence the conversation. Often the police do not have a case until they speak with the "victim" or "suspect" and they let the cat out of the bag so to speak.
If you let your mom know where you are going, you have the law on your side if you choose to leave. She will not be able to report you missing because she knows where you are.
Whether your boyfriend could be held responsible for anything would be dependent on what is said to the police. If you insist that your boyfriend has nothing to do with your decisions, and is not to blame, then he should be alright.
The safest measure when dealing with the police is to tell them you want an attorney. Once you say you want an attorney they are not allowed to ask you additional questions unless you recommence the conversation. Often the police do not have a case until they speak with the "victim" or "suspect" and they let the cat out of the bag so to speak.
10/03 21:32:58
refadmin wrote:
Dear Mallorie:
The law is not any different because you are adopted. Please refer to prior comments for additional information. Continue your efforts to communicate with your mother as that is the only way things will ever improve.
The law is not any different because you are adopted. Please refer to prior comments for additional information. Continue your efforts to communicate with your mother as that is the only way things will ever improve.
10/03 21:34:58
Angelica wrote:
I am going to 17 in a month. I want to live with my aunt who is 29 years old and capable of raising me. My mother says that I can't move in with her. Can I move in with her when I turn 17?
11/03 19:33:21
refadmin wrote:
I provide the same information to you as to all others.
The gray area of the law is on your side if you choose to do this. At age 17, according to legal definitions, you are not a minor, nor a child, nor a juvenile.
Tell your mother what you are going to do and she will not be able to report you as a runaway. It is extremely unlikely that you would be forced by the police to stay with your mother against your will, being that you are 17, you have informed your own mother where you are going to be, and you have adequate shelter and support.
The gray area of the law is on your side if you choose to do this. At age 17, according to legal definitions, you are not a minor, nor a child, nor a juvenile.
Tell your mother what you are going to do and she will not be able to report you as a runaway. It is extremely unlikely that you would be forced by the police to stay with your mother against your will, being that you are 17, you have informed your own mother where you are going to be, and you have adequate shelter and support.
12/03 00:29:06
jane wrote:
I am a 17-year-old female. I go to school and am involved in many activities and have never been in trouble with the law. I have wanted to move out of my house for a while. My dad passed away a year ago due to an accident at work and ever since then my mom has not been the same. She yells all the time and accuses me of doing things I'm not. She makes me do everything around the house, while she and my sister do nothing. I've been dating my boyfriend for 2 years now. His family loves me. They know that I'm having troubles at home, and would allow me to live with them. Now I got into a fight with my mom the other day and I went to leave. She threatened to call the police and put my boyfriend in jail because I am staying there. Could this happen? Will my mother's social security for my sister and I because of my father's passing be affected if I leave.
22/03 10:22:50
refadmin wrote:
No, it does not work the way your mother is threatening. It sounds like she is having a serious problem coping with your father's death. If it is as bad as you convey, then if you were ever confronted by the police, your argument would be that you had to protect yourself from that harmful environment.
If your mother knows where you are, you are not a runaway. Your boyfriend is not doing anything illegal at all and his parents are not doing anything illegal by allowing you to stay there.
The Social Security benefits are for your care. If your mother is still responsible for caring for you, she will continue to receive benefits.
If your mother knows where you are, you are not a runaway. Your boyfriend is not doing anything illegal at all and his parents are not doing anything illegal by allowing you to stay there.
The Social Security benefits are for your care. If your mother is still responsible for caring for you, she will continue to receive benefits.
22/03 19:14:18
Tiffany wrote:
Sorry I am going to ask the same thing as some of the others but I just want to make things clear on my behalf. I don't want to get my boyfriend and his parents in ANY sort of trouble. My mother left me at age 9. I was sent to my grandmothers and they made me leave at 16. I live with my father now. I've been horribly stressed by him and people feel SORRY for me having to deal with him. He takes pills that increase testosterone. Anyone who knew him before that thinks that is insane because he was hard to deal with then, let alone now. I end up in tears almost every night. I'm not allowed to do ANYTHING. He won't even allow me off my block or to the mall with friends. The parents of my boyfriend of about a year have said they want me to live with them and do not mind supporting me until I am 18 at least. I'm afraid my dad will go crazy and get the police and legal process involved. I don't want anyone in trouble. I'm a nice person and just want a normal life. I heard that if he does take legal measures its almost a waste of time because it takes a while and I'll be 18 by the time they get through court. Help me please. Yours truly, Tiffany.
25/03 21:41:55
refadmin wrote:
I would give you the same information as I have given to others asking similar questions. If you let your father know where you are going to be, it is unlikely that the police will get involved. If you are 17, it is unlikely they will come get you.
You should consider documenting the things that he does to you which you find not to be in your best interests. These can be used in a later petition, such as a petition for emancipation.
Your father cannot physically restrain you or put his hands on you if you want to leave. If he does do so, you should call the police.
One can never guarantee anything when fallible and excitable humans are involved, however, It is not a crime to help a teenager in need. Your boyfriend's parents should not get in any legal trouble and know to anticipate some trouble if they know about your father and your situation.
You should consider documenting the things that he does to you which you find not to be in your best interests. These can be used in a later petition, such as a petition for emancipation.
Your father cannot physically restrain you or put his hands on you if you want to leave. If he does do so, you should call the police.
One can never guarantee anything when fallible and excitable humans are involved, however, It is not a crime to help a teenager in need. Your boyfriend's parents should not get in any legal trouble and know to anticipate some trouble if they know about your father and your situation.
25/03 22:11:56
Luke wrote:
I found this very interesting. I was just wondering if I was going to move out at 17 and live in a friends apartment could I or my friend be punished by the law. I will inform my mom of my whereabouts. I have a job and so does my friend and another person who is staying at the apartment so we have income.
Thanks.
Thanks.
29/03 22:58:23
refadmin wrote:
The answer is the same. "Punished by the law" is vague, but I would not anticipate punishment. The police just do not interfere where a 17 year old leaves his parent, especially if he informs the parent where he is and if he is employed.
29/03 23:20:17
Sophie L wrote:
Hi,
I know that there are a lot of similar situations already posted on this blog, but I just wanted to make sure that what I've heard and what's on here still holds true in Michigan.
I'm turning 17 in less than two months. I am a straight A student, I take advanced classes, I play tennis, dance, and I am the president of my schools Model United Nations club. Basically, I'm a good kid and I care about my future.
My mom and I fight almost every day when I get home from school, however, and while I know she probably has good intentions, my already stressful life has become almost unbearable and my home is no longer a nurturing environment.
My mom has hacked into my facebook account and my myspace accounts, read my diary, and drug tests me and breathalizes me regularly, even though I've never had an encounter with the law and I don't abuse alcohol or drugs.
I was wondering if, when I turn 17 and the situation hasn't improved, if I could get a job and move in with my two friends' apartment without being arrested or taken to court.
I'm sorry, also, for telling you my life story but I really have no one to discuss this with that would know anything about it at all. I just heard you could move out when you were 17 today.
I know that there are a lot of similar situations already posted on this blog, but I just wanted to make sure that what I've heard and what's on here still holds true in Michigan.
I'm turning 17 in less than two months. I am a straight A student, I take advanced classes, I play tennis, dance, and I am the president of my schools Model United Nations club. Basically, I'm a good kid and I care about my future.
My mom and I fight almost every day when I get home from school, however, and while I know she probably has good intentions, my already stressful life has become almost unbearable and my home is no longer a nurturing environment.
My mom has hacked into my facebook account and my myspace accounts, read my diary, and drug tests me and breathalizes me regularly, even though I've never had an encounter with the law and I don't abuse alcohol or drugs.
I was wondering if, when I turn 17 and the situation hasn't improved, if I could get a job and move in with my two friends' apartment without being arrested or taken to court.
I'm sorry, also, for telling you my life story but I really have no one to discuss this with that would know anything about it at all. I just heard you could move out when you were 17 today.
18/04 23:36:29
McKenzie wrote:
If a 16 year old girl was in a fight with her parents and wanted to move into her boyfriends house, who lives an hour and half away in the same state, would this be possible? His parents love me very much and said they would let me live with them but they are afraid of the law and what would happen.
09/05 11:44:53
refadmin wrote:
At age 16, you are going to have more trouble than at age 17. Staying in the house until at least age 17 is a consideration for you because both you and your boyfriend's parents could indeed have some trouble with the law.
13/05 22:04:51
Paige wrote:
Hi, My name is Paige, im about to be 17 in 5 months, i live with both my parents. i get along with my dad great, but my mother is the worst. we have had a lot of problems with eachother since i was little and i know if i move out at 17 she will phisycally try and stop me, but im a slave in my house, i do everything and my older brother does nothing and is considerd an angel, i just want to leave. i have been dateing my boyfriend for almost 2 yrs. i dont have a job and i do okay in school, i have been introuble with the law, but its not on my record, if i moved out at 17 would there be anything my partents could do to stop me?
27/05 09:50:58
refadmin wrote:
Dear Paige:
Your situation is not distinct from the others indicated on the site. Read through the comments and you will find your answers.
Good luck.
Your situation is not distinct from the others indicated on the site. Read through the comments and you will find your answers.
Good luck.
27/05 21:01:55
Ashley wrote:
I was wondering since i will be 17 in 7 months if i would get into trouble for moving out and staying with my boyfriend and his family. there would be a roof over my head and i would be fed when i am hungry. i live with my mom and her boyfriend but i dont like it. would i be able to tell them where im going without the cops being involved. or if they called the cops would the cops come to get me and would i have to come back and live with my mom? i do not want to live with my father so that is not an option.
03/06 19:31:40
refadmin wrote:
Dear Ashley:
Your situation is not distinct from the others indicated on the site. Read through the comments and you will find your answers.
Good luck.
Your situation is not distinct from the others indicated on the site. Read through the comments and you will find your answers.
Good luck.
03/06 21:14:43
lydija wrote:
My step daughter is turning 17 next month and we've had physical custody of her since 3/07 after her mother kicked her out. She was involved with an arson case last summer while at her friends' house and the charges were later dropped in the 2 girls claiming it was an accident, and now she is in trouble with a pending shop lifting case and she's heavily into drugs and alcohol. She's been grounded since March of 2008 for the shop lifting and a few weeks ago she got 2 bottles of wine from a girl at school and brought them home, I found them in her room while doing her laundry. When confronted with her smoking/drug use/drinking, she literally tries to attack either me or my husband and tells us she can do whatever she wants to do and no one has any control over her. Then she tells us we can't touch her wrist as we try to restain her from hitting us in the face, because she comes after us so fast, she tries to punch us and has been sucessful in hitting me in the lip and mouth and tried to choke my husband. We dont' touch her unless we have to restain her from hurting us. She's been caught stealing money out of my husband's wallet, my purse and she intentionally breaks things (dishes, glasses, mirrors, picture frames, kicks through walls, ripped the sofa) in our house because she says its "what you deserve for ruining my life". My husband and I need some advice as to what to do. She has refused counseling and tells us that she's this way because I'm an evil witch of a step mother and I've only tried to support her & help her out over the last 9 years. She says she's going to leave as soon as she turns 18 but this cant' continue to go on in the house for another year. Mom refuses to speak to her and wants nothing to do with her either.
11/06 12:59:21
S. Page wrote:
My daughter is 16 and ran away Friday, June 13. The police have been little help. I know who she is with but since "she's not in any known danger", they will not activly search. A friend knows where she is and isn't willing to give the information to the police or her parents. I'm lost and know nothing else to do other than sit and wait. We went looking, but nothing. I love my daughter, and all I want is for her to come home. For the kids lloking to move out at 17, unless your parents are abusing you, it will cause a lot of pain for your parents. I haven't ever felt this much hurt in my life. I did leave at 17, but that was after a broken nose, dislocated shoulder, and so on. I did let family know where I was an that I was safe. So please re-think your decision first.
15/06 00:27:40
refadmin wrote:
Dear Lydija:
From a legal standpoint, you and your husband could get the police and courts involved. Once in the juvenile system, she will be forced to get certain social services which could be of benefit to her. Contact your local police department and tell them your situation. You certainly have a right to protect yourself from further violence and in doing so would likely benefit her in the future. Furthermore, such a contact would lay a foundation should she attempt to say you and her father attacked her.
From a legal standpoint, you and your husband could get the police and courts involved. Once in the juvenile system, she will be forced to get certain social services which could be of benefit to her. Contact your local police department and tell them your situation. You certainly have a right to protect yourself from further violence and in doing so would likely benefit her in the future. Furthermore, such a contact would lay a foundation should she attempt to say you and her father attacked her.
17/06 22:01:52
Domenica wrote:
Hi my name is Domenica. I'm 17 and pregnant of 2 in a half months. My parents are both very strict parents, and if I tell them that I'm having a baby, they would try to make me get an abortion, which I don't want to do. They are not the type of parents who would sit and talk and listen to me, or what I got to say. I'm always stuck at home doing nothing because they don't let me go out or do anything. I feel like I'm stuck in a cage all day. I never had the feeling of being a normal teenager, and never enjoyed being one and hanging out with friends. I hardly have any friends cause I cant go out. I'm sick of living this boring life. My boyfriend that I been dating for a year. His mom said I can live with her and she will help with the baby and everything. I know I wont be able to tell my parents face to face where I'm going or that I am leaving, but will it be the same if I left a note saying that I will be safe and where I will be at?
30/06 23:40:23
refadmin wrote:
Dear Domenica:
You are 17 and nearly an adult. As I have indicated in prior posts, the police typically do not assist parents in trying to pick up persons of your age who leave the home. If you inform your parents of where you are going and that you are not in danger, they will not be able to truthfully say to the police that you are a runaway in danger. Consider also putting the information in a letter to your parents and sending a copy to another adult whom you trust. It is very unlikely that your boyfriend's mother would be in trouble for assisting you under the circumstances.
You are 17 and nearly an adult. As I have indicated in prior posts, the police typically do not assist parents in trying to pick up persons of your age who leave the home. If you inform your parents of where you are going and that you are not in danger, they will not be able to truthfully say to the police that you are a runaway in danger. Consider also putting the information in a letter to your parents and sending a copy to another adult whom you trust. It is very unlikely that your boyfriend's mother would be in trouble for assisting you under the circumstances.
01/07 09:46:05
TLS wrote:
I am 17 and 7 months, my mom and i rarely get along, i recently told her how i felt about her and how she treats people. Her boyfriend and i both feel that she doesnt give me enough freedom and doesnt treat me like much of an adult. My boyfriend and i have been dating for almost 2 years and have been talking about moving out together for a long time now. We recently looked at apartments and found one we liked. i would still go to school and graduate, that is something important to me. I have a job and he has two of them so we would be able to support ourselves just fine. although you have said numerous times that the police would rarely get involved, i am still worried that if i were to move into this apartment with my boyfriend at 17 and 7 months the police would make me go home or take me to juvi, i am also worried that it could go further than that. i dont want to be taken to court or be sent to a foster home. I know that i am so stresses out in this environment that i resort to punching things, and hurting myself. My boyfriend cares about me and doesnt like the situation i am in either. I DO know that i feel 100% happy and at ease when i am with my boyfriend and i know that moving out with him would work out just fine. I dont want to hurt my mom, i DO love her but i cant handle the way things are any more. I need advice!!!!!
26/07 23:36:38
refadmin wrote:
Dear TLS:
I cannot predict what the police would do, but can only give you probabilities. As I have posted in the past, the police do not typically get involved. Furthermore, even if the police were to get involved, it is likely you would merely be taken home and especially if you have no juvenile record.
I cannot predict what the police would do, but can only give you probabilities. As I have posted in the past, the police do not typically get involved. Furthermore, even if the police were to get involved, it is likely you would merely be taken home and especially if you have no juvenile record.
28/07 09:33:38
Jeremy caucasian wrote:
ive just gotta say...you've been very helpful to me, as far as reinforcing the fact that i can move out of my parents home in MI when i turn 17 in feb. , and theres nothing they can do about it... Im sure you were not intending to help my "situation" like this, but i was already aware of this before i read this.
I have a a lot of friends who moved out of their parents home at age 17, and they told me the details:
like one of them, their parents called the cops and reported them as a runaway, but when the parents told the police department how old she was (17) they pretty much informed them that legally there was nothing they could do about it, since (like you said) she left parents home voluntarily..
I need to escape my mothers grasp, because she is an over controlling freak , a compulsive liar, and treats me like im insane or immature which im not.
She makes these judgments on how i act around her, i used to have an extreme anger problem, and whenever im around her it just seems to come back out. I was just forced to move back in with her after an unfortunate encounter with police officers
(nothing that serious, i was drunk) when i was living with my cousin for about a year in Grand Rapids, and it really helped me mature a lot, and get rid of my anger problem. I know how to function in society, i do not flip out at the drop of a hat on my friends or people in the "real world" in general...yet , in my mothers presence i cannot control it, so i feel like if i stay here my maturity level will end up going backwards..
so, in feb.(when i turn 17) im getting out of my mother's / stepfather's house and im moving into a house with 5 of my friends in Grand Rapids.
(it makes paying the rent a lot easier with this many people or more in a 2-4 bedroom house, because we all have jobs so we split it up equally)
ive had a few jobs since i was 14 and i have saved a lot of my money and only took a little bit of spending money every paycheck, mostly just for cigarettes and...whatever else, but im quitting smoking now, so i can save a lot more before feb.
Ive been saving for this "moving out" thing, community college, and a vehicle....
all in all, i truly feel like i can do all of this, and it will satisfy me so much, to prove my mother wrong about how mature i am, and show her that i can take care of myself and i do not need her (financially speaking).
Dont get me wrong, i have unconditional love for my family, but we are extremely different in too many ways and its impossible for me to get along with them..
wow...i just realized i gave you part of my life story...sorry about that...
thank you though..
I have a a lot of friends who moved out of their parents home at age 17, and they told me the details:
like one of them, their parents called the cops and reported them as a runaway, but when the parents told the police department how old she was (17) they pretty much informed them that legally there was nothing they could do about it, since (like you said) she left parents home voluntarily..
I need to escape my mothers grasp, because she is an over controlling freak , a compulsive liar, and treats me like im insane or immature which im not.
She makes these judgments on how i act around her, i used to have an extreme anger problem, and whenever im around her it just seems to come back out. I was just forced to move back in with her after an unfortunate encounter with police officers
(nothing that serious, i was drunk) when i was living with my cousin for about a year in Grand Rapids, and it really helped me mature a lot, and get rid of my anger problem. I know how to function in society, i do not flip out at the drop of a hat on my friends or people in the "real world" in general...yet , in my mothers presence i cannot control it, so i feel like if i stay here my maturity level will end up going backwards..
so, in feb.(when i turn 17) im getting out of my mother's / stepfather's house and im moving into a house with 5 of my friends in Grand Rapids.
(it makes paying the rent a lot easier with this many people or more in a 2-4 bedroom house, because we all have jobs so we split it up equally)
ive had a few jobs since i was 14 and i have saved a lot of my money and only took a little bit of spending money every paycheck, mostly just for cigarettes and...whatever else, but im quitting smoking now, so i can save a lot more before feb.
Ive been saving for this "moving out" thing, community college, and a vehicle....
all in all, i truly feel like i can do all of this, and it will satisfy me so much, to prove my mother wrong about how mature i am, and show her that i can take care of myself and i do not need her (financially speaking).
Dont get me wrong, i have unconditional love for my family, but we are extremely different in too many ways and its impossible for me to get along with them..
wow...i just realized i gave you part of my life story...sorry about that...
thank you though..
02/08 13:28:56
Jeremy caucasian wrote:
ive just gotta say...you've been very helpful to me, as far as reinforcing the fact that i can move out of my parents home in MI when i turn 17 in feb. , and theres nothing they can do about it... Im sure you were not intending to help my "situation" like this, but i was already aware of this before i read this.
I have a a lot of friends who moved out of their parents home at age 17, and they told me the details:
like one of them, their parents called the cops and reported them as a runaway, but when the parents told the police department how old she was (17) they pretty much informed them that legally there was nothing they could do about it, since (like you said) she left parents home voluntarily..
I need to escape my mothers grasp, because she is an over controlling freak , a compulsive liar, and treats me like im insane or immature which im not.
She makes these judgments on how i act around her, i used to have an extreme anger problem, and whenever im around her it just seems to come back out. I was just forced to move back in with her after an unfortunate encounter with police officers
(nothing that serious, i was drunk) when i was living with my cousin for about a year in Grand Rapids, and it really helped me mature a lot, and get rid of my anger problem. I know how to function in society, i do not flip out at the drop of a hat on my friends or people in the "real world" in general...yet , in my mothers presence i cannot control it, so i feel like if i stay here my maturity level will end up going backwards..
so, in feb.(when i turn 17) im getting out of my mother's / stepfather's house and im moving into a house with 5 of my friends in Grand Rapids.
(it makes paying the rent a lot easier with this many people or more in a 2-4 bedroom house, because we all have jobs so we split it up equally)
ive had a few jobs since i was 14 and i have saved a lot of my money and only took a little bit of spending money every paycheck, mostly just for cigarettes and...whatever else, but im quitting smoking now, so i can save a lot more before feb.
Ive been saving for this "moving out" thing, community college, and a vehicle....
all in all, i truly feel like i can do all of this, and it will satisfy me so much, to prove my mother wrong about how mature i am, and show her that i can take care of myself and i do not need her (financially speaking).
Dont get me wrong, i have unconditional love for my family, but we are extremely different in too many ways and its impossible for me to get along with them..
wow...i just realized i gave you part of my life story...sorry about that...
thank you though..
I have a a lot of friends who moved out of their parents home at age 17, and they told me the details:
like one of them, their parents called the cops and reported them as a runaway, but when the parents told the police department how old she was (17) they pretty much informed them that legally there was nothing they could do about it, since (like you said) she left parents home voluntarily..
I need to escape my mothers grasp, because she is an over controlling freak , a compulsive liar, and treats me like im insane or immature which im not.
She makes these judgments on how i act around her, i used to have an extreme anger problem, and whenever im around her it just seems to come back out. I was just forced to move back in with her after an unfortunate encounter with police officers
(nothing that serious, i was drunk) when i was living with my cousin for about a year in Grand Rapids, and it really helped me mature a lot, and get rid of my anger problem. I know how to function in society, i do not flip out at the drop of a hat on my friends or people in the "real world" in general...yet , in my mothers presence i cannot control it, so i feel like if i stay here my maturity level will end up going backwards..
so, in feb.(when i turn 17) im getting out of my mother's / stepfather's house and im moving into a house with 5 of my friends in Grand Rapids.
(it makes paying the rent a lot easier with this many people or more in a 2-4 bedroom house, because we all have jobs so we split it up equally)
ive had a few jobs since i was 14 and i have saved a lot of my money and only took a little bit of spending money every paycheck, mostly just for cigarettes and...whatever else, but im quitting smoking now, so i can save a lot more before feb.
Ive been saving for this "moving out" thing, community college, and a vehicle....
all in all, i truly feel like i can do all of this, and it will satisfy me so much, to prove my mother wrong about how mature i am, and show her that i can take care of myself and i do not need her (financially speaking).
Dont get me wrong, i have unconditional love for my family, but we are extremely different in too many ways and its impossible for me to get along with them..
wow...i just realized i gave you part of my life story...sorry about that...
thank you though..
02/08 13:30:06
candi wrote:
I'm 20. This is going to sound dumb ... I live with my mom and my 13 month old daughter. My mom is strict. I met a guy recently and he became my boyfriend. I met him through an online dating service. I want to visit him but she says she'll call the cops on me if I do and say I ran away. The other thing is I'm planning on moving with him. Again he says she'll involve the cops. Am I correct by saying the police will not get involved since I am legal age and have a child?
22/08 01:12:15
refadmin wrote:
Dear Candi:
Yes, you are correct. At age 18, you are an adult and can live and go where you want.
Yes, you are correct. At age 18, you are an adult and can live and go where you want.
22/08 08:43:54
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04/12: 17-year-old Runaways: Not "Adults", Not "Juveniles", And Not "Children" - Michigan Law Leaves Parents Helpless
Wow, this is really interesting. An individual who is age 17 in Michigan is not an "adult", is not a "juvenile" and also not a "child" under Michigan law. What are they then and can Michigan Law provide the authority for the parents to do anything?A frequent inquiry has been: My 17-year-old is staying at their aunt's house and I want them home, what can I do? Well, first, technically, they are not missing because their whereabouts are known. If the 17-year-old were "missing", under MCL 28.258, if they were in the company of another individual under circumstances indicating their physical safety may be in danger, the police department, after conducting a preliminary investigation, must immediately enter the information regarding that individual into the LEIN. However, if it appears that the disappearance was voluntary, there will be problems in enforcement; and in the hypothetical, the person is not "missing". A "child" is treated differently with greater protection, but under MCL 28.258, a "child" must be less than age 17.
A problem for the parents is that under MCL 722.3, until the individual is age 18, the parents are obligated to support them unless the court has terminated the obligation somehow. Therefore, if an individual age 17 runs away to a relative's house, the parents are still obligated for support, however, generally speaking, they will not receive the police department's assistance in returning the individual home. MCL 722.151, which prevents the aiding or abetting of juveniles, or harboring of runaways only applies to children under age 17; and the Juvenile Court, only has jurisdiction for those under age 17. Therefore, it would take a very persuasive parent to get the police to do anything. The parent would likely have to cite the law and the application of the law to their 17-year-old, document the request, and possibly threaten legal action if the police did nothing. Again, generally speaking, if a parent calls up the local police department and tells an officer that their 17-year-old has run away, the police will offer no assistance and do nothing.
Under MCL 722.52, age 18 is the age of adulthood, so at this age, the individual is an "adult" but what is the label attached at age 17? According to Michigan law, the Juvenile Court does not have jurisdiction of persons 17 or older (MCL 712A.2), so they are not "juveniles". Furthermore, according to the Juvenile Diversion Act, MCL 722.822, such a person is not a "minor". In any event, age 17 seems to be the cut-off for any type of assistance even though the law defines the age of majority as 18 and obligates parents to their children until age 18. There is a gap from age 17 to age 18 in the law for situations such as those of the hypothetical and this writer is as of yet, remiss to offer any useful legal advice.