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Robert L Johnson wrote:
I have experience with a collector who thinks he can do anything to collect a debt including ordering employees to break into my home and change my locks and shut the water off. The police followed up by speaking with the landlord who informed them that he had the right to do those things because he was foreclosing. The police decided it was a civil issue and would not file a complaint for breaking and entering although he was not able to prove it was a civil issue as he had no court order. I have a good case, but because I do not have the money, I find the law useless in that I cannot go after collectors like these without money.
25/02 17:53:43
refadmin wrote:
The case sounds solid. You should know that the court will allow for a waiver of the filing fees for indigent plaintiffs. Furthermore, there are organizations such as Legal Aid which represent persons of limited means with issues involving creditors.
25/02 19:03:42
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25/02: What Creditors Cannot Do When Collecting Debt
A frequent inquiry involves the question of creditors and whether they can speak with others about their debt. More generally, the issue is what can they legally do in order to collect a debt.The federal Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (FDCPA) and the Michigan Occupational Code set forth the law on debt collection practices. The FDCPA is codified at
15 USC Section 1692 et seq, while the Michigan law is codified at MCL 339.901 et seq. These laws are intended to protect consumers and accordingly apply to the collection of personal, family, and household debt.
The prevalence of abuse, deception and unfair debt collection practices by debt collectors led to the establishment of the federal and Michigan fair debt collection practices laws. Abusive collection practices contribute to the number of personal bankruptcies, to marital instability, to the loss of jobs, and to invasions of individual privacy. These effects in turn affect commerce. The laws are intended to remedy that situation and protect consumers from abuse by requiring that alternative non-abusive measures be used. Debtors should feel confident in calling upon these laws when they are violated.
Debt collectors cannot use false, deceptive, or misleading representations or unfair or unconscionable means to collect any debt. If you think the means fall within these categories, they probably do. Collectors are supposed to only speak with the consumer about the debt. They cannot communicate with anyone about the debt, other than the consumer unless they are trying to find out how to locate them. If this happens, the collector has to identify himself and state that he is confirming or correcting location information concerning the consumer, and if asked, he has to identify his employer. He cannot talk about the debt at all and cannot contact anyone, other than the consumer more than once unless he is asked to or unless he reasonably believes that the earlier response was erroneous or incomplete and that the person now has correct or complete location information. Communication by post card is out of the question as is using any mark on any envelope or the like, that indicates that the debt collector is in the debt collection business or that the communication relates to the collection of a debt.
Rules are set forth with regard to communication with the consumer specifically. Unless the consumer has given their prior consent or the collector has a court order, a debt collector may not communicate with the consumer in connection with the collection of any debt at any unusual time or place, or that which should be known to be inconvenient to the consumer. The assumption is that the convenient time for communicating with a consumer is after 8:00 a.m. and before 9:00 p.m. local time at the consumer’s location. Furthermore, the collector cannot contact the consumer’s place of employment if he knows or has reason to know that the employer prohibits the consumer from receiving such communication.
During their colloquy with the collectors, every consumer should demand that the collector provide proof of the debt. The law provides for this, calling it debt validation. Within five days after the initial communication with a consumer in connection with the collection of any debt, a debt collector is required by law to send the consumer a written notice. The notice MUST contain the amount of the debt, the name of the creditor, and three specific statements:
(1) that unless the consumer, within thirty days after receipt of the notice, disputes the validity of the debt, or any portion thereof, the debt will be assumed to be valid by the debt collector;
(2) that if the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, the debt collector will obtain verification of the debt or a copy of a judgment against the consumer and a copy of such verification or judgment will be mailed to the consumer by the debt collector; and
(3) that upon the consumer’s written request within the thirty-day period, the debt collector will provide the consumer with the name and address of the original creditor, if different from the current creditor.
If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor, the collector must STOP collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof. The collector cannot resume collection until they obtain verification of the debt or a copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector.
If all else fails and the consumer just wants to end the communication all together, they can. Consumers have the power to put a stop to all communication by notifying the collector in writing of their refusal to pay the debt and/or their desire for the the debt collector to cease further communication with the consumer. Thereafter, the collector is not allowed to communicate except to notify the consumer that they will terminate their efforts, or that they are going to sue.
There simply is no reason to not take a stand against abusive debt collectors by suing them and you do not have to do it alone. The law provides for reasonable attorney fees and expenses in addition to actual damages as well as additional damages as the court may allow. The debt collectors only defense is to show by a preponderance of evidence that the violation was not intentional and resulted from a bona fide error notwithstanding the maintenance of procedures reasonably adapted to avoid any such error. In order to prove your case, you must keep an record of conversations. You should always document the name of the person with whom you spoke as well as the date, time, and content of the conversation. If you are going to send a writing to the creditor, send it "certified mail" or "return receipt requested." Never send your original documents to anyone as copies will suffice until it comes time to appear in court.